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05/10/2019 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 106 HOMEOWNER/RENTER INSURANCE RENEWAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 106(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 104 MORTGAGE LOAN ORIGINATOR LICENSING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
           HB 104-MORTGAGE LOAN ORIGINATOR LICENSING                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REINBOLD reconvened  the  meeting and  announced that  the                                                               
final order of  business would be CS FOR HOUSE  BILL NO. 104(L&C)                                                               
am,  "An  Act  relating  to   exemptions  from  mortgage  lender,                                                               
mortgage   broker,  and   mortgage   loan  originator   licensing                                                               
requirements; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:05 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE  WILSON, Alaska State  Legislature, Juneau,                                                               
paraphrased from her  sponsor statement on HB 104,  which read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The current Alaska SAFE Act  allows a seller to finance                                                                    
     his or  her residence.  If a person  had more  than one                                                                    
     residence (a  second home for example)  they could sell                                                                    
     and finance  it themselves  without a license  under AS                                                                    
     06.60.015(b)(3). If the second home  had been rented it                                                                    
     would be  considered an income property  and the seller                                                                    
     would be  required to have  a mortgage  loan originator                                                                    
     license in order to seller finance it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      CSHB104(L&C)  would allow  a person  to seller-finance                                                                    
     up to 5 of their own  properties which are secured by a                                                                    
     dwelling, whether  they are an income  property or not.                                                                    
     Interior and more rural  community property owners have                                                                    
     parcels  with trailers  or cabins  on  them; some  with                                                                    
     water  and  electric,  some  without.  These  types  of                                                                    
     properties  are   historically  difficult   to  finance                                                                    
     through  the  traditional  mortgage  process  and  many                                                                    
     times  lenders require  more money  down, shorter  loan                                                                    
     terms, higher  interest rates, and in  some cases, will                                                                    
     not finance them  at all. Those wishing to  take on the                                                                    
     responsibility  of home  ownership and  establish roots                                                                    
     in the community may find,  for many reasons, that they                                                                    
     do  not  qualify  for a  traditional  mortgage.  Seller                                                                    
     financing is another tool that  can be utilized to make                                                                    
     it affordable for one to  realize their dream of having                                                                    
     a  place  they  can  finally call  their  home.  Seller                                                                    
     financing  is a  reasonable  and  practical option  for                                                                    
     both sellers and buyers of these type properties.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     CSHB 104 would  give more opportunity for  the dream of                                                                    
     home  ownership  to  those   who  might  not  otherwise                                                                    
     realize it  and would  relieve the financial  burden of                                                                    
     bona fide  non-profit organizations  assisting Alaskans                                                                    
     in making their dream come true.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:09 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  said that she discovered  that many people                                                               
are doing  seller financing with their  income property believing                                                               
that it was  legal in Alaska to do so.  Unfortunately, one person                                                               
found out through the court system  that it is not. She said that                                                               
she discovered  it was an  issue throughout Alaska.  She remarked                                                               
that  very few  people believed  it  was not  possible to  seller                                                               
finance properties. For  example, a person might rent  a home for                                                               
five years and decide to purchase  it but could not do so without                                                               
having a mortgage loan originator  license. This bill would allow                                                               
people to self-finance their residential loan.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COSTELLO clarified  that the  bill before  the committee                                                               
was  the committee  substitute (CS)  for  HB 104  (L&C) am,  work                                                               
order   LS0275/S.A.  Chair   Reinbold  objected   for  discussion                                                               
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD opened public testimony on HB 104.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICE  WALSH, Director,  Division  of  Banking and  Securities,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,   Community  and  Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED), Anchorage, stated the division's support for the bill.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:49:00 PM                                                                                                                    
NADINE  WINTERS,   Executive  Director,   Fairbanks  Neighborhood                                                               
Housing Service  (FNHS), Fairbanks, spoke  in support of  HB 104.                                                               
She  stated  that FNHS  provides  affordable  rental housing  and                                                               
provides second  mortgage payment assistance  for income-eligible                                                               
first-time home  buyers. The FNHS specifically  supports the non-                                                               
profit  exemption  provision.   Although  the  organization  only                                                               
provides mission-driven  second mortgages under market  rates, it                                                               
is  regulated like  a bank  that does  first mortgages  at market                                                               
rate. As  a small  organization, it can  be difficult  to comply.                                                               
For example, last  year the FNHS closed 13 loans  at zero percent                                                               
through  a  federal  funding  source  targeted  specifically  for                                                               
people  who  are  at  80   percent  of  area-median  income.  She                                                               
characterized  their  organization  as a  mission-driven  process                                                               
whose funders specifically direct what can and cannot be done.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She said that  having another layer of regulation  is onerous and                                                               
problematic  for them.  The federal  Secure and  Fair Enforcement                                                               
for Mortgage  Licensing (SAFE) Act  was amended in 2010  to allow                                                               
states to exempt nonprofits such  as theirs. She reported that 22                                                               
states have  an exemption and  24 states have  conditions similar                                                               
to ones in HB 104.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WINTERS reiterated  support for  the bill,  stating that  it                                                               
would be  immensely helpful. She  predicted it would  impact four                                                               
or five other  non-profits that do the same thing.  The FNHS does                                                               
not  compete  with  banks  since it  offers  a  totally  separate                                                               
product.  In  fact, FNHS  actually  enhances  what the  banks  do                                                               
because with the closing costs  and down payment assistance, more                                                               
people can afford to buy homes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BIRCH echoed her sentiments.  He remarked that allowing a                                                               
seller  to finance  his/her residence  increases flexibility  and                                                               
improve lives for many.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:31 PM                                                                                                                    
STACY HARVILL, Associate  Broker, Liaison, Legislative Committee,                                                               
Alaska Association  of Realtors,  Fairbanks, spoke in  support of                                                               
HB 104.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD after first determining  no one wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony on HB 104.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  read  a   list  of  bona  fide  nonprofit                                                               
organizations  that  would be  affected  by  the bill,  including                                                               
Anchorage  Habitat for  Humanity,  Mat-Su  Habitat for  Humanity,                                                               
Alaska Community Development  Corporation, Fairbanks Neighborhood                                                               
Housing  Services, Rural  Alaska  Community  Action Program,  and                                                               
Alaska EnTech Capital, LLC.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She explained  that individuals found  out that  private mortgage                                                               
contracts  were not  legal. She  said that  some title  companies                                                               
were  not moving  forward with  processing  and that  individuals                                                               
were  not  able to  move  into  their  homes.  She said  she  was                                                               
surprised when  she discovered this  but would like people  to be                                                               
able to have their own homes in ways that they can afford.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REINBOLD asked for further  clarification that her comments                                                               
reflected  changes between  bill  version U  and  Version S.  She                                                               
referred to  work order 31-LS0275\S,  page 1, lines  13-14, which                                                               
read, ";or (5) a bona fide nonprofit organization.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  agreed.  She  said that  this  issue  was                                                               
brought  to  her  attention  by   the  Division  of  Banking  and                                                               
Securities.  The  original bill  did  not  contain the  nonprofit                                                               
provision,   which  would   allow  nonprofits   to  assist   more                                                               
individuals  in   obtaining  financing  for  homes.   In  further                                                               
response to Chair  Reinbold, she said that  one additional change                                                               
was made  on the House  floor to  ensure that that  a grandfather                                                               
provision was added to ensure that  anyone who was currently in a                                                               
mortgage  contract   would  not  lose  their   home  since  these                                                               
individuals purchased their homes in good faith.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[HB 104 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD reviewed upcoming committee announcements.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BIRCH remarked that the  legislature is tight on time. He                                                               
offered his support to move the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REINBOLD  expressed an interest  in holding the  bill over,                                                               
in part,  to allow Senator  Bishop to  review the fiscal  note at                                                               
the next hearing.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  thanked the  sponsor for bringing  the bill                                                               
forward.  She   also  appreciated  that  the   stakeholders  were                                                               
involved in the process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 104 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 106 Amendment #2 - M.4.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 - Written Testimony VER M. - American Property Casualty Insurance Assoc..pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 106
SB 106 - Written Testimony - NAMIC.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 106
CSHB 104(L&C) AM VER. S.A.PDF SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM Sponsor statement 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM-CSHB104 AM Explanation of Changes 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) - HB104 Explanation of Changes 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM Fiscal Note DCCED - DBS - 4.12.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM Revised Position Ltr- AK Bankers Assoc 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM Ltr of Support from Loren and Bari Hite.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C) AM Ltr of Support Schiewer 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104
CSHB 104(L&C)AM Ltr of Support Alaska Realtors 5.10.19.pdf SL&C 5/10/2019 1:30:00 PM
HB 104